Historical Christianity 2

Historical Christianity Kells

Many years ago, back in a time when I still visited my mother and father at least once or twice a week, and when we had a good relationship.
I had wrote this on a baptist message board, about the reason that I left the LDS church 5 years prior.
The following post is from June 24th 2005 on:   https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/after-leavin-mormonism-i-did-some-research.3679/#post-77546

Historical Christianity
I have been asked several times. “If not Mormonism, than what, and why?”
I have done a lot of research since leaving the LDS church as to what else is there.
To the LDS, the Church of Christ fell into complete apostacy, and there was nothing left after, until Joseph Smith restored the church in 1830.
I have thought to myself. There would have to be a few conditions met to make the true.
1- That Christ’s promise that “the gates of Hades shall not prevail against (the church)” was not fulfilled. Matthew 16:17-19
2- That the priesthood in which Joseph Smith said that he restored, was actually lost.
3- That Joseph Smith’s church actually reflects Christ’s church.
First, here are some links that I found regarding the continence of Christ’s church from the beginning to now.
Now as for the structure and the teachings. That obviously is more in depth. The articles that I listed had many good points.
But I will make a few of my own.
As in the days of Christ’s church, during the apostle’s ministries, the holy place was in the temple made not with hands: Mark 14:58
Apostles met in each others homes, and gathered new believers there as well.
They taught the principles of the gospel there, and for new believers they offered baptism in the river to show the commitment of the new member to the rest of the community, and to be obiedent to Christ.
They taught faith would save a man, that it is not the faith of the man, but the faith that Christ had in us to begin with that would prevail.
That it is not our works, but that we were made to be in good works of Christ.
Following faith and being therefore bound to salvation.
“My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” John 10:29
Those who were merely disciples would be sent out, at which point they would take on the task of “the great commission” in which Christ told us to teach the gospel to all. Those who were “sent out” were called apostles.
1 Cortinthians 12 gives a guide to understanding spiritual gifts, and the structure of the Body of Christ.
We find in Hebrews 7 (and the following chapters to 11) that Christ is the High Priest, so the animal sacrifices of old have been paid for by His blood, and since he carries on forever, the high priest’s job is taken care of forever since He lives forever to make intercession for us. Hebrews 7:27
So the church lives under His grace, his direction, and his revelation.
Since He lives in every believers heart via the Holy Spirit, the decernment and revelation is given on an individual basis.
2 Corinthians 6:16
Why not a different religion? I actively searched and participated in several New Age type of religions, like Wicca/Druidism, and spiritual conciousness types. I also tried Krishna/Hinduism. None of them fit like the Holy Spirit.
A good reference for the key principles of salvation:


This all made logical sense and was simple to explain all of those years ago, but it still seems so logical and biblical-centric now.

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  • Peter Ould


    The notion that the Bible is unclear on the key principles of the Gospel (as you outline above) and needs clarification in LDS revelation is a nonsense once you read the BIble by itself. Once you take LDS blinkers off you see a clear picture focussed around Christ’s work on the cross “buying for himself” a people by his sacrifice, by his merits being their merit. The Old Testament (particularly the sacrificial system) points forward to the work of Christ on the cross and the New Testament (after it) unpacks that work (particularly the chapters from Hebrews that you have outlined above which explain the symbolism in the Mosiac sacrificial cult).

    I remember a man about to become the local LDS Bishop walk into our church. He’d been reading and studying the Bible for half a year and come to the conclusion that the LDS Church was a false teacher and that in fact the BIble taught something different than what Salt Lake said it did. He proceeeded to grill my colleague – “What do you believe about X, what do you believe about Y?” and as my colleague responded with reference to the BIble the man replied, “Yes, that’s what I believe now too”. The man had come to believe the traditional orthodox view of Jesus and his work, not by being lectured by someone but simply by opening the Bible and letting it speak it’s truth. He then found in us a local body of believers who had each in their own way discovered the same truth and put their trust in Jesus, not their works or a church, for their salvation and sanctification.

    The Bible is surprisingly clear as to what it says about Jesus. Latter-day revelation exists to obfuscate that truth and draw people away from Jesus and towards a hierarchial belief system instead.

    • [email protected] Post author

      Thank you for your comment Peter, I absolutely agree. The Bible is extremely clear. It is a large collection of works, but keeping it in context in it’s entirety is important to clear understanding, and it is very clear if kept in that context.