Comments on: Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857 http://behindzioncurtain.com/2009/11/mountain-meadows-massacre-of-1857/ Life in Utah behind the zion curtain Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:08:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Reverend Ryan http://behindzioncurtain.com/2009/11/mountain-meadows-massacre-of-1857/comment-page-1/#comment-5340 Reverend Ryan Sun, 04 Sep 2011 07:04:03 +0000 http://behindzioncurtain.com/?p=23#comment-5340 This is a tragedy in and of itself. You are making excuses for these murderers who killed over 120 UNARMED men, women and children. The indians didn't shoot the pioneers at point blank range after they had surrendered! That was ALL on the cowards who were known as Mormons. Your unpublished letters are BS, and irrelevant. The indians had a small part in the overall crime. This is a tragedy in and of itself. You are making excuses for these murderers who killed over 120 UNARMED men, women and children. The indians didn’t shoot the pioneers at point blank range after they had surrendered! That was ALL on the cowards who were known as Mormons.
Your unpublished letters are BS, and irrelevant. The indians had a small part in the overall crime.

]]> By: Rhonda Pace http://behindzioncurtain.com/2009/11/mountain-meadows-massacre-of-1857/comment-page-1/#comment-5028 Rhonda Pace Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:14:09 +0000 http://behindzioncurtain.com/?p=23#comment-5028 I am a descendant of many of the pioneers who lived in Southern Utah at the time of the massacre. My ancestors are among the leaders of the area, those who took children in afterward, and probably some of the perpetrators as well, although most personal histories deny that they were there. I too believe it was a terrible tragedy. There are many angles to any given story and often the loudest is wrongly considered the most correct. Much attention has been given to the victims of the massacre and not enough to the political and social pressures that caused to to occur. However, these travelers were not as innocent as they have been made out to be. I have unpublished letters written by my ancestors which tell how this wagon train had an ox die in the Fillmore area. When the Indians asked for the ox so they could eat it, members of the wagon train poisoned it before they gave it to them, causing sickness and death in the Indian tribe. The Indians were outraged and demanded revenge, which in their culture meant a life for a life. By the time they reached the Cedar City area it was obvious to the Indians that they would be leaving the area. The Indians claimed that if they could not get their revenge on the wagon train, then the lives of local settlers would be taken to balance the score. These people had been told to live at peace with the Indians which they had been doing for several years,and hoped to continue to do. I do not condone what the Mormon settlers did, but I believe they were victims of their place in history. Should they protect the wagon train at the expense of their own lives? A difficult question at any time. Biased posts like this one only tell facts from one angle and continue predjudice where it does not belong. Shame on YOU. I am a descendant of many of the pioneers who lived in Southern Utah at the time of the massacre. My ancestors are among the leaders of the area, those who took children in afterward, and probably some of the perpetrators as well, although most personal histories deny that they were there. I too believe it was a terrible tragedy.

There are many angles to any given story and often the loudest is wrongly considered the most correct. Much attention has been given to the victims of the massacre and not enough to the political and social pressures that caused to to occur.

However, these travelers were not as innocent as they have been made out to be. I have unpublished letters written by my ancestors which tell how this wagon train had an ox die in the Fillmore area. When the Indians asked for the ox so they could eat it, members of the wagon train poisoned it before they gave it to them, causing sickness and death in the Indian tribe. The Indians were outraged and demanded revenge, which in their culture meant a life for a life.

By the time they reached the Cedar City area it was obvious to the Indians that they would be leaving the area. The Indians claimed that if they could not get their revenge on the wagon train, then the lives of local settlers would be taken to balance the score.

These people had been told to live at peace with the Indians which they had been doing for several years,and hoped to continue to do. I do not condone what the Mormon settlers did, but I believe they were victims of their place in history. Should they protect the wagon train at the expense of their own lives? A difficult question at any time.

Biased posts like this one only tell facts from one angle and continue predjudice where it does not belong. Shame on YOU.

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